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Apparently there's no true fix, even if the state is able to eventually update SCOTI. DOL says the true pre-test date would be the date the youth switch from ARRA to formula WIA; however, the federal software has no way to distinguish between them.

Re: Converting summer Youth to Regular WIA by fieldsmfieldsm, 1254837295|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Has anyone received an update as to where the State is at with allowing TABE scores to be added after the 60 days since intake date? As we were converting out Out of School Youth to regular WIA and TABE testing them we found we were unable to enter their scores into SCOTI since the 60 days since intake has passed. Bob Haas wrote me on 8/31 saying that they were working on this problem. I was wondering if anyone has heard anything else in the past month as I haven't tried to add scores since August.

Converting summer Youth to Regular WIA by tesc_styertesc_styer, 1254831145|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Youth Summer Wages
fieldsmfieldsm 1253106555|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Area 7 Wiki / Summer Youth » Youth Summer Wages

The summer youth at RCC sites were mandated to earn only $7.39/hr. I recommend against doing any sort of retro-active pay increase for youth. However, you could increase wages going forward for non-RCC sites and/or offer incentives to all youth for such things as punctuality, good attendance, work quality, good supervisor reviews, work readiness improvements, etc.

Re: Youth Summer Wages by fieldsmfieldsm, 1253106555|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Youth Summer Wages
goodwrgoodwr 1253028844|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Area 7 Wiki / Summer Youth » Youth Summer Wages

Our contracted youth provider originally designed their stimulus work experience program to pay the youth minimum wage for all worksites except the youth placed at the state parks (RCC program w/local dollars) who are paid at $7.39.

The provider has determined that some worksites or work experiences are clearly more demanding than others and they are proposing an increase to the youth’s wages for those identified assignments (including the RCC work experience). They have asked for authorization for either a retro-active adjustment or a merit increase based on the assignment.

I am posting this comment in hopes of receiving information from other counties and Area 7 guidance regarding our provider’s request.

Youth Summer Wages by goodwrgoodwr, 1253028844|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
BIS/PPS
quainjquainj 1249995027|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Area 7 Wiki / Fiscal » BIS/PPS

Are there any instructions on how to complete the BIS/PPS form? Just wondering if everyone is doing it the same way. If not, what are the ramifications???

BIS/PPS by quainjquainj, 1249995027|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: ITA Suitability
quainjquainj 1249994745|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Area 7 Wiki / Adult and Dislocated » ITA Suitability

This is confusing for case managers. Mine are having a tough time with the self-suff
iciency policy and the ITA suitability policy.

Re: ITA Suitability by quainjquainj, 1249994745|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
ITA Suitability
SOMERRSOMERR 1245953816|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Area 7 Wiki / Adult and Dislocated » ITA Suitability

OWD Policy Letter 08-12 states that beginning 5/9/09 auditors will review adherance to local suitability policies.
Is Area 7 developing a suitability policy separate from the self sufficiency policy?

Do we apply the family self sufficiency standard for both unemployed and employed adults as well as dislocated workers effective immediately (or when we have an approved suitability policy)?

ITA Suitability by SOMERRSOMERR, 1245953816|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

You can transfer 100% of your admin money (all funding streams) into that funding stream's program pool if you want, but computers as supportive services and as resource room equipment are both "program" costs, not admin.

If you're asking about computers as supportive services for youth participants in an ITA in need of such equipment to participate in their planned WIA activities, that would be allowable.

If you're asking about purchasing computers for the resource room, I'd imagine the only way to do that would be if you have a Youth-only resource room.

Re: STIMULUS ADMIN YOUTH DOLLARS by fieldsmfieldsm, 1244749546|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

It was Guernsey County. Sue Thomas.

Re: Deductions from Youth Payroll by trottjtrottj, 1244746094|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Deductions from Youth Payroll
coyanjcoyanj 1244736478|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Area 7 Wiki / Summer Youth » Deductions from Youth Payroll

I'm trying to locate the county that was on the webinar this a.m. who said they were told WIA superceded JTPA and either PERS or SS must be deducted from the youth wages. Our school said they had a letter from the IRS that said the students could be exempt so I wanted to pass it on when I receive it. The school said they also used the argument that it was "JTPA and similar programs" to exempt them and wondered if they would share that. Thanks

Deductions from Youth Payroll by coyanjcoyanj, 1244736478|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

CAN WE USE STIMULUS YOUTH ADMIN DOLLARS TOWARD PURCHASING NEW COMPUTERS FOR OUR CLIENTS AT THE ONE STOP?

STIMULUS ADMIN YOUTH DOLLARS by THATCCTHATCC, 1244474658|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
fingerprinting
willwd08willwd08 1243622203|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Area 7 Wiki / Summer Youth » fingerprinting

headstart is willing to take several youth as interns…they need to be fingerprinted and tb tested. Somewhere I saw that this is not possible as a WIA expense…..is that right?

fingerprinting by willwd08willwd08, 1243622203|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

This stands for Specific Vocational Preparation. Many other states/workforce areas' policies use SVP codes to determine the length of the OJTs and apprenticeships. Area 7 doesn't yet have an OJT policy…

Go to http://online.onetcenter.org/find/ and type in the keyword or ONet code. Under the descriptors, it lists the SVP range (i.e. truck driver is SVP 4-6, meaning it could be anywhere from 3 months to 2 years).

Here is the basic table, based on the educational requirements of the job (use the SVP range from O*Net to find the corresponding SVP level):

1. Vocational education (high school commercial or shop training, technical school, art
school, and that part of college training which is organized around a specific vocational
objective),
2. Apprentice training (for apprentice jobs),
3. In-plant training (given by an employer in the form of organized classroom study),
4. On-the-job training (functioning as learner or trainee on the job under the instruction of
a qualified worker),
5. Essential experience in jobs (serving in less responsible jobs which lead to the higher
grade job or serving in other jobs that qualify).

SVP Level /Time
1 — Short demonstration.
2 — Anything beyond short demonstration up to and including 30 days.
3 — Over 30 days up to and including 3 months.
4 — Over 3 months up to and including 6 months.
5 — Over 6 months up to and including 1 year.
6 — Over 1 year up to and including 2 years.
7 — Over 2 years up to and including 4 years.
8 — Over 4 years up to and including 10 years.
9 — Over 10 years.

Re: Specific Vocational Preparation by fieldsmfieldsm, 1242998047|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Do you know anything about SVP codes and how they can be used to determine the length of an OJT?

Specific Vocational Preparation by quainjquainj, 1242997761|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

During one of the webinars, a county stated they were already using a temp agency for in-house workers. We were wondering if anyone knew which county that was so we could contact them to see if they would
share their contract language. Thanks

Temp Agency Contract Needed by coyanjcoyanj, 1242920742|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thank you for posting to the Area 7 Wiki. After reviewing your question we believe that your question would fall under the category Stimulus Questions rather than the P7-802: Needs-Based Payments Policy forum. Please try posting your question there so others will be better able to assist you.

Re: Using Temp Agencies by area7workforcearea7workforce, 1242913906|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Sustainability planning
quainjquainj 1242913577|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Area 7 Wiki / Fiscal » Sustainability planning

This is the same concern we are having. We wanted to do some creative things with stimulus dollars, but looking forward to the potential decrease in our regular WIA funding, we have gone back to the drawing board until we see what our regular WIA allocation will be.

Re: Sustainability planning by quainjquainj, 1242913577|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Using Temp Agencies
coyanjcoyanj 1242912947|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Hidden / Deleted threads » P7-802: Needs-Based Payments Policy

During one of the webinars, a county stated they were already using a temp agency for in-house workers. We were wondering if anyone knew which county that was so we could contact them to see if they would
share their contract language. Thanks

Using Temp Agencies by coyanjcoyanj, 1242912947|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

P7-802: Needs-Based Payments policy was available for comment until May 26, 2009.

P7-802: Needs-Based Payments Policy by area7workforcearea7workforce, 1242837761|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
What to track
willwd08willwd08 1242831351|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Area 7 Wiki / Tracking System » What to track

What are the things that Area 7 NEEDS to have tracked by the system. Will we get a list? From the training, my understanding is that we will all get that "minimum", but that we can add to what is tracked. Can we have the list? Also - is there a "training manual" ?

What to track by willwd08willwd08, 1242831351|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
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